19 Responses to “RWA response”

  1. Rhonda Stapleton July 16, 2007 at 12:35 PM #

    You are one classy lady. I hope I’m fortunate enough one day to publish with your company–you guys have been honest, respectful, and forthcoming with information, and I appreciate it. I know a lot of other authors feel the same way!!

    Thanks for keeping us updated!

  2. Michelle July 16, 2007 at 12:55 PM #

    Well said Angie! :clap:

  3. Rosie July 16, 2007 at 1:11 PM #

    As a reader I have to admit that hearing a publisher has RWA recognition does feel like a stamp of legitimacy. However in the reality of my day to day book purchases doesn’t really affect how or why I buy a book. It’s in your motto…it’s (for me) all about the story. You are a jump ahead because Samhain already knows this.

    One final thought…I am very impressed with your recent posts on this subject. You shed light on a complicated issue for a layman reader. My respect for you and Samhain was already considerable and this only made it more so.

  4. Marianne July 16, 2007 at 3:18 PM #

    Allie Boniface blogged about it here: http://allieboniface.blogspot.com/2007/07/buzz-about-rwa.html

    There is a great amount of distress from those who are ePubbed. I hope RWA truly recognizes the ripples they’ve made…

  5. April July 16, 2007 at 3:48 PM #

    Here’s a link that presents many points of view:
    http://www.absolutewrite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70255

  6. Lori July 16, 2007 at 5:25 PM #

    Excellent post, Angie. It’s posts and comments like yours that will continue to help make epublishing recognized as the professional entity that it should be.

    As someone who works in the publishing industry (albeit a different end of it – the academic publishing industry), I know that change often comes as slow as molasses to the industry as a whole, but it does always come. As long as those epublishers that are in the business to stay continue to promote themselves in a professional manner, and the business model is one that is understandable and can be validated, I would imagine that RWA will change their tune within the next year or two.

  7. Sheila July 16, 2007 at 7:01 PM #

    As a published e-book author,though not with Samhain,yet, I do feel strongly about RWA’s new regulations. I feel they have made a mistake that will only hurt RWA. E-books are here to stay regardless of anything RWA approves or disapproves. If they really want to HELP e-book publishers and author become more mainstream and more professional, which should be their only goal, this is not the way to do it. I think they feel chanllenged by all the popularity e-books have brought to romance publishing and to the world of erotic publishing they cannot attempt to keep up with or top. If this were not the case all the large, NY publishers would not be opening their own e-book publishers. E-books will continue, much as they have. Possibly the older and larger publishers will at sometime be in a position to comply with the new RWA regulations. One wonders if at that time, RWA will again make it more difficult and again change their regulations for RWA memberships.
    Time will tell.

  8. Jennifer Elbaum July 16, 2007 at 9:52 PM #

    If only all of the comments flying around the net were as reasonable and well-presented as yours, the issues might actually get resolved. Thanks for presenting such a level-headed perspective!

  9. Charlene Teglia July 16, 2007 at 10:35 PM #

    I am so glad to hear that a task force will be formed to educate on epublishing. It’s such a different business model and needs to be understood properly. Hooray for Stef! Thank you for volunteering to help, and Crissy, too.

  10. Shiloh July 16, 2007 at 11:23 PM #

    Well said, Angie.

    I’m still on the fence about this, mostly just because over the past couple of years, I’ve seen several ‘decisions’ from RWA that seem to affect epubbed authors and/or erotic romance authors more than any other group of authors. But I also know the past few months have been rocky for the epub industry so I can almost see where RWA is coming from.

    Small press simply isn’t the same as vanity. However… small press, by that very definition, isn’t going to have the resources that the big guys in New York have. I just hope that the decision makers within RWA can be shown the difference.

    I’m withholding judgment for now and I have emailed my concerns to the those who need to know.

    I’d recommend all of those with opinions on this do the same. They won’t change things or even look at them different until they are made aware of our opinions and experiences on the matter.

  11. spyscribbler July 17, 2007 at 1:43 AM #

    Do you know what I noticed? E-pubbed authors don’t have representation on the board, unless they’re PAN or PRO. Are there enough e-pubbed authors in RWA to warrant representation?

    It would help to have someone at board meetings who is there to support our cause and choices, our market, and our needs.

    Sure, I want to be print-published on the front tables of Borders some day, doesn’t everyone? But 40% royalties with very low overhead for our publishers is a great deal for all parties. Quick payment is another great perk for e-publishing.

    It’s not just a choice to “start” a career, but a valid financial choice and a smart career choice. E-books are going to continue to grow as the younger generations grow older.

  12. Stephanie Feagan July 17, 2007 at 10:22 AM #

    Angie, I SO enjoyed meeting you in Dallas! And pictures don’t do you justice – you are awesomely beautiful!

    Thank you very much for this blog post. It bothers me, as you can imagine, that the board is always perceived as The Man, trying to hold down the little guy. I think at this point, semantics are kicking our butt – and we will be issuing clarification very soon. It’s simply that we’re all fried at the moment. I didn’t actually get home until last night. But we’re working on it, I promise.

    I mostly wanted to clarify why I asked for this task force. Yes, I and others on the board need more information before we can propose plans for the future. But the task force isn’t just to educate the board – its purpose is to study and prepare recommendations on the formation of educational programming for members who are currently epubbed, or who may be considering it. Knowledge is power, and there seems to be a great deal of misinformation within the membership when it comes to epublishing. Those who’ve taken the epub route know the ins and outs – and it’s my hope that these authors will be future workshop presenters, both online and at conference. This will be a benefit to those considering epublishing. But I’d also like to see workshops and programs geared toward multi-pubbed writers in epublishing. There are undoubtedly questions about promotion, distribution, sales numbers, contracts, etc. In short, I believe a great many members would benefit from education – and at this time, it’s not readily available. This is the purpose of the task force – to figure out how best to educate and fill the needs of members, then make proposals to the board.

    Right now, the possibilities are endless. Our first task is to educate ourselves, both internally and externally. Once we understand the nuances of the business, we’ll query the members, to find out what they’d like to see, what they envision for the future.

    I very much appreciate your generous offer to help us, and I’ll be in touch soon. Right after I unpack and get 2 days of sleep. 🙂

    Thanks again, Angie – you are a gracious, lovely woman and in my opinion, anyone who snags you for an editor is one lucky chick.

    Stef

  13. Donna Grant July 17, 2007 at 11:32 AM #

    Angie –

    Thanks so much for being for the blog. I wanted to address something Spyscribbler asked about epubs being on the RWA Board. There is one. Me. 🙂

  14. RG July 17, 2007 at 3:21 PM #

    Thank you so much. I was there and still that was very clear and concise. And I’m very excited to hear about the task force.

  15. Kaz Augustin July 18, 2007 at 3:00 AM #

    Angie, I appreciate the tenor of your blog entry, but am still a little … bemused by the talk you and Crissy had with the RWA Board. They didn’t mean to…, they didn’t realise…, they’re attempting to…. I’ve read this all over Romancelandia and it cuts no ice with me.

    The decision that the Board came to didn’t emerge full-blown from their collective minds in one blazing epiphany. It came from person-months of effort which makes their current reactions to this blow-up seem either defensive or idiotic. If they didn’t realise that their comments would alienate a couple thousand of their members, maybe they should have–oh, I don’t know–thought about things or even delayed an announcement while they consulted further? Quite simply, is the RWA Board trying to act professionally, or isn’t it?

    And you state that it isn’t such a big deal because, who knows, Samhain may be recognised again next year. How can this flip-flopping be the mark of a professional organisation?

    Forget small presses, forget epubbed authors. The basic question boils down to this: what would YOU think of an organisation that changes major policy (doesn’t matter what policy) along with the seasons?

  16. Angie July 18, 2007 at 9:58 AM #

    The basic question boils down to this: what would YOU think of an organisation that changes major policy (doesn’t matter what policy) along with the seasons?

    After being at RWA and being able to associate the organization with people, not just, I don’t know, as some faceless entity, I remain a fan of RWA. I believe the organization and the members have a lot to offer each other–published and unpublished. I got to hear the founder of RWA speak. Did you know it was an editor who founded RWA?

    I saw the interactions between people, got to stop and chat, heard people talk about how much they enjoyed the workshops/speeches/spotlights…I also heard a number of people say fantastic things about their local chapters. So yes, despite the ups and downs, I still think RWA is a good organization.

    I mean, let’s be honest, I think that the US has some hellish problems within our government right now, but I still think we kick ass as a country. Bad decisions (which I myself have been know to make) don’t make something bad. It just means you hope the bad decision is learned from, so the organization, person, etc can grow.

  17. Ursula July 18, 2007 at 4:58 PM #

    Excellent post, well said, and bravo on the task foce. It’s never a bad idea to examine, as an organization, where you’re headed, why, and how you can better support your membership.

  18. Bev Stephans July 19, 2007 at 1:44 AM #

    “Dear Author” had a fairly well-reasoned blog about the flap with RWA. Your’s was far better and allowed me to see the big picture. I do hope Samhain gets recognition next year as some of your epubs and prints have better storylines than NY pubs. Of course, I’m prejudiced as I have been buying from Samhain almost from it’s inception. :thanks:

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